Below the Surface
Casual chats between an Austrian and Australian on environmental topics that usually don't get talked about openly.
Hosts Gunnar Haid and James Hammond set out to provide a light-hearted and thought-provoking look into Contaminated Land, Resource Recovery, Ecology and general environmental issues in Australia, in particular NSW. They use their experience and industry connections to talk about subjects that, at least in their opinion, don't get talked about enough or not in the right context. Join them for a chuckle and some unique perspectives.
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Below the Surface
#29 The New AS5370 Standard
Attention Asbestos in Soils Specialists, there is a new kid in town. The Australian Standard 4964-2004 Method for the qualitative identification of asbestos in bulk
samples has been superseded with a new AS 5370.
What's different? What's better, what's worse? Why are we reporting below the detection and below the reporting limit? Is NATA on board with it? What do all those different sub-categories the laboratories report actually mean?
Gunnar is talking to Linda Apthorpe, a Certified Occupational Hygienist, Fellow of the Australian Institute of Occupational Hygienists (AIOH) Lecturer at the University of Wollongong, author of multiple scientific papers and speaker at a variety of professional development seminars. there are very few who are better suited to talk about this subject, especially since Linda was also on the panel of people who developed the new Standard.
James was unfortunately not there to keep Gunnar in check, and you guessed it, that resulted in not one, not two, but at least three (in)famous Gu-Rants in this episode. Some would say that alone makes this episode compulsory listening for anybody in the industry.
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The episode was recorded on 11 April 2025
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(c) Gunnar Haid and James Hammond